» Derek, to me, regardless of what category (fray) is put into, it's worthy of recognition. I've been visiting and loving (fray) since its inception, and it has always come across as intimately personal while at the same time an embracing community.
The critics should keep their heads down. You deserve to hold yours high.
(fray) has got my vote in People's Voice!
And thanks, Derek, for helping to make the Web something special.
Andrew Brodie { 4.27.01 @ 4:42am }
» People who do nothing have the time to criticize. They spend their time theorizing about this and that, ripping other people's work apart. The funny thing is that I can almost bet that a lot of them don't have 'personal' or 'community' sites. They haven't spent late night hours manipulating code to get things just right. They haven't been in the trenches. They're like politicians who send young men out to war and sit back on their fat a** .
Derek, (fray) was my inspiration to get a personal site going. I don't have it fully completed but I can say for sure that it was the beginning of something grand in my life. I've learned so much about the generosity and kindness of 'strangers.' If all goes as planned I hope to attend one of the (fray) days.
Thank you for everything that you've done. You've also got my vote.
Del { 4.27.01 @ 6:46am }
» Derek,
Don't let the bastards get you down...Fray is worthy of recognition of any kind in any category.
And to the critics... "Phhhbbbttt!" :P
roe { 4.27.01 @ 8:51am }
» A personal site doesn't have to include the word "I," "me" or "mine" to be personal...and concepts like online community defy definition.
Keep the faith and keep on rockin' :-)
webchick { 4.27.01 @ 9:29am }
» (I wrote this wonderful response, forgot my email address, and it removed what I said. Great. I'll try again)
Since I'm reading, responding and living on the web, more or less, you know that I am alive and part of the web community. Places like (fray) and WaSP, for example, are challenging the way that we think about what the Internet is.
I've been involved with groups, such as c2x2.net, that have tossed around the idea of doing a web-awards type thing. Notice how we're not doing it anymore.
(fray) is nominated in a group that also nominates "Government & Law" and "Finance" sites.
Maybe the Net is too big for the Webbies?
Take heart, though. I know that when you win, you'll flip-off and be flipped-off by all the appropriate parties.
I live on the Web. I breathe the Web. Do we really need to cheapen it with awards? We all know what's good.
Do you need the promotion? I doubt it. I heard about (fray) long before I first visited. Having a conversation over drinks...you know the drill.
So what are you doing it for? I've always respected what you do. Not gonna stop now. I just can't imagine why it's important... you *know* we all respect you.
And after all is said and done, the (fray) will still be what it is.
Stephen { 4.27.01 @ 11:28am }
» (fray) is a great personal site, a great community site, and it's inspired thousands and thousands of people, including me. reading (fray) helped me write better, design better, and most importantly think harder about what the web can be. i'm grateful that the site exists and very, very happy to see it getting recognition from the "academy." keep up the good work.
apartness { 4.27.01 @ 2:34pm }
» I'll echo Mr. Z's comment above (as if I could do anything but). The Fray has been a guiding light to me in terms of the creativity, intimacy, and connection I would like to bring to my own site over time. It bears on every screen the personality & values of its founder and the writers & designers that have created it. No, it's not a diary or a blog. But I felt more community running through my veins at Fray Day 4 than I've felt in years, and that counts. Embracing, even if only for 5 minutes, the story of anyone with guts enough to sign up counts. And spending the energy, design muscle, and hosting fees for almost 5 years to keep Fray free to tell stories counts. Whether Fray wins or not, it has become one of the standards of excellence on the Web, and personally, I think that counts a lot more than a Webby.
Carol { 4.27.01 @ 9:03pm }
» (fray). It's been personal for me since I first stumbled onto it. As for community, the events are a given. But when I realized that each and every person out there could contribute /their/ stories, that was a huge, warm realization of community to me. That made me /feel/ the community.
And it's beautiful. Page by page, persistantly through each story, it's awesome for the senses.
(fray) /is/ personal, art & community all rolled into one. It's something that I've actively concidered through my years of reading it, how seamlessly and skillfully it blends those things. Not to mention a wealth of inspiration. I, among so very many others, have been endlessly inspired by (fray).
I was giddy when I heard the Webby news. And now, as the critics roll out onto the carpet, I feel a little attacked too. I think, 'How /could/ they?!' and 'Have they ever /embraced/ (fray)?!'
Through all the effort into making (fray) personal for you, you've made it personal for /us/. And that's one awesome way to build community.
anathea { 4.28.01 @ 9:55am }
» One more thing....
dmp { 5.3.01 @ 11:52am }
» I can't believe people don't see the community and personal aspects of the fray. The stories are *very* personal. And it's open for many to contribute.
Echoing other sentiments - the fray is what inspired me to learn HTML and create a webpage. It took me a while, but for the last year, because of the fray and blogger, I've been able to maintain a personal site that is my love. If it hadn't been for the fray -- no kidding -- my life would definitely be different. So whether you win or not - know that the fray makes a difference.
Good luck with the awards though. :)
melanie { 7.2.01 @ 8:02pm }
» When I realized I had to make a site for someone important (not *me*), I started looking at what was out there.
What was out there at the time (1996) was a fair amount of competance but only the glimmer of passion. When I found sites that expressed the passion of life, I knew where to get going.
The passion was for the taking from Lance, Alex, and you, Derek.
How can anyone thank the three of you for that? Vote is all I can do right now...
Jon Szanto { 7.2.01 @ 11:17pm }
» I have loved the (fray) since it started. It has always been what I thought a website should be: great design, excellent layout, interesting use of web-styles and as always the outstanding content. I have turned more folks onto the (fray) than any other site on the web and always they comments come back :why aren't there more sites like this???!!
Miles Later { 7.3.01 @ 4:49am }
» you know, derek, way back when you started this thing, I was the editor of a little Australian print mag about the net. My deputy ed found your site, in the first week, I think, and we reviewed it... (I think you've even got our quote in your quotes file still). In the last few years, I've now had people interview you a couple of times for different mags... and you always inspire. You have kept something here on the Web that is what I think the Web should be about in part: storytelling and community sharing. Real community. Not some empty phrase that really means "market". And what you publish is truly personal, for every body involved. It's one of the few places online that can really really make me cry or laugh or sigh, that causes me to have intensely personal reactions and makes me want to share that with others. There's only one other place that did that for me online: that 24 hours in Cyberspace project, that made me feel like this really was a global thing. I've been an editor of print mags about tech for 9 years now. People constantly ask me what my favourite Web site is. I always tell them it's (the fray). Because it's real. Because it's about life. Because it's honest and painful and beautiful. Because it's what the Internet should be about: the personal and the political; the community and the individual; sharing stories. I don't know if we Aussies are allowed to vote in your Webbies. I'm off to find out. But it doesn't matter in the long run whether you win: you won us a long time ago. You made a difference. That's huge. Well done, you.
Rosanne { 7.3.01 @ 7:52am }
» When Halcyon won a webbie, I checked out his site...and there I found a link to the fray..I couldn't believe I had stumbled on such a place. I'm a designer so artisically it grabbed me, but it was the personal stories that held me, and ultimately moved me to tears and laughter. I consider it a community and a very personal place as well. If it hadnt had been for those Webby Awards I would have never found you..and for that I am grateful, so I voted for your site in both categories, and I wish you all the luck in the world.
Fishy { 7.3.01 @ 8:32am }
» I may not say anything smart like the rest of the postings, but I just wanted to tell you that I Voted! because of love.
I know very little about web-stuff. But I do know what love is all about. I love reading & understanding, learning and experiencing, giving and sharing.
I love fray then, I love fray now and I'll always love fray.
Tiffy { 7.4.01 @ 7:50pm }
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